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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Nov 26, 2013, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by Nick_USA
If the gates stay as they are I think I will go the B22A to the B FCL via transfer security as I only have 1hr 20 on the scheduled connection.
If you go through transfer security in B, turn right after security and go down one level which will bring you more or less at the bottom of the escalator up to the FCL. If you go through security at the far end you'll see a sign pointing down to the FCL as you come out.
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Nov 27, 2013, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If you go through transfer security in B, turn right after security and go down one level which will bring you more or less at the bottom of the escalator up to the FCL. If you go through security at the far end you'll see a sign pointing down to the FCL as you come out.
I shouldn't have counted on getting a duck tomorrow;
My gate on the LHR - FRA now has me arriving on C05A.
Still departing to LAX from Z62.
Nov 27, 2013, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Nick_USA
I shouldn't have counted on getting a duck tomorrow;
My gate on the LHR - FRA now has me arriving on C05A.
Still departing to LAX from Z62.
Why not? You can either go to the FCL B via B transfer security or go through passport control (not very far from C05) and walk to the FCT. You may not have enough time for a shower but you can always ask for a duck. ![Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired) - FlyerTalk Forums (10)](https://i0.wp.com/www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif "Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired) - FlyerTalk Forums (10)")
Nov 27, 2013, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Why not? You can either go to the FCL B via B transfer security or go through passport control (not very far from C05) and walk to the FCT. You may not have enough time for a shower but you can always ask for a duck.
Thanks .... C pier is new for me.
Nov 27, 2013, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Nick_USA
Thanks .... C pier is new for me.
The lower C gates (if your flight actually parks there) are separate from C13-16 gates which are miles away from anywhere. It's where United flights used to use and US Airways flights still use. I think it's more straightforward to follow the nearest Exit (passport control) signs and walk to the FCT. When you get down to the baggage claim level you don't have to go outside but walk under roof though you may have to cross a road as C and A/B are separate buildings. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.
Nov 27, 2013, 5:47 pm
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I fly from ABZ to JFK on Saturday via FRA all on Lufthansa.
Arrive into FRA at 8.30 local time with flight to JFK at 10.55
I know I get in to a Bus gate and leave from Z25, i have a question that may seem strange.... I am not a fan of trains of any kind... Is it possible to walk to my departure gate without using the Skyline train and how long would the walk take?
Nov 28, 2013, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by john9774
I fly from ABZ to JFK on Saturday via FRA all on Lufthansa.
Arrive into FRA at 8.30 local time with flight to JFK at 10.55
I know I get in to a Bus gate and leave from Z25, i have a question that may seem strange.... I am not a fan of trains of any kind... Is it possible to walk to my departure gate without using the Skyline train and how long would the walk take?
The only way to go from a B bus gate to a Z gate without using the Skyline train that I am aware of is to go through passport control, walk through the terminal landside, then go through security and passport control into Z. How long it will take depends on the length of queues at passport control in B and security in Z, but you should have enough time if that's your concern.
Flights from ABZ seem to arrive at A or B bus gates. If arriving at an A bus gate simply go up the escalator and through security at the top. However, for the last few days at least LH975 arrived at a B bus gate, and it's either the Skyline train or passport control twice.
Nov 28, 2013, 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
The only way to go from a B bus gate to a Z gate without using the Skyline train that I am aware of is to go through passport control, walk through the terminal landside, then go through security and passport control into Z. How long it will take depends on the length of queues at passport control in B and security in Z, but you should have enough time if that's your concern.
Flights from ABZ seem to arrive at A or B bus gates. If arriving at an A bus gate simply go up the escalator and through security at the top. However, for the last few days at least LH975 arrived at a B bus gate, and it's either the Skyline train or passport control twice.
Thanks for the reply.... will prob just bite the bullet and use the sky train as dont want to risk waiting in too many queues. Is it fairly simple to get to the sky train, signed etc significantly faster?
Nov 28, 2013, 2:38 am
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Sorry for the same sort of posts.... in my mind this is how it works....
I get to Frankfurt and I am the only person in there going to my gate.... everyone else is deaf/mute and the airport is an endless criss cross of unsigned corridors all leading me away from where I want to go.
Nov 28, 2013, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by john9774
Thanks for the reply.... will prob just bite the bullet and use the sky train as dont want to risk waiting in too many queues. Is it fairly simple to get to the sky train, signed etc significantly faster?
Originally Posted by john9774
Sorry for the same sort of posts.... in my mind this is how it works....
I get to Frankfurt and I am the only person in there going to my gate.... everyone else is deaf/mute and the airport is an endless criss cross of unsigned corridors all leading me away from where I want to go.
From the bus arrival gate go up the escalator and when you get to the top follow the signs for Z gates. This will take you to the right of passport control booths and a corridor to the bottom of the escalator taking you up to the Skyline train platform. The train leaves every 2-3 minutes and takes less than 2 minutes to T1 Z. There is security check somewhere on the way.
Frankfurt Airport is actually very well sign-posted. I will post some photos later. If you can read the alphabets and numbers, there's no need to talk to anybody to find your way around.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Nov 28, 2013 at 6:02 am
Nov 28, 2013, 3:06 am
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Friday, Nov. 29
Route: VCE-FRA-JFK, all on LH
According to LH website, we're pulling into Gate ASO then our connecting flight will be at Z25. I can't find Gate ASO on the terminal map. Where is it in relation to our connecting gate? What security/passport controls will we expect to encounter while in transit. We have a 2hr connecting time.
Thanks for the help and reassurance.
Hope everyone is having a great thanksgiving!
Nov 28, 2013, 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by xflyery
Friday, Nov. 29
Route: VCE-FRA-JFK, all on LH
According to LH website, we're pulling into Gate ASO then our connecting flight will be at Z25. I can't find Gate ASO on the terminal map. Where is it in relation to our connecting gate? What security/passport controls will we expect to encounter while in transit. We have a 2hr connecting time.
Thanks for the help and reassurance.
Hope everyone is having a great thanksgiving!
ANS: A Non-Schengen
ASO: A Schengen Ost (East)
ASW: A Schengen West
BSW: B Schengen West
BSO: B Schengen Ost (East)
BNS: B Non-Schengen
CNS: C Non-Schengen
CS: C Schengen
T2S: Terminal 2 Schengen
DNS: D Non-Schengen
ENS: E Non-Schengen
Nov 28, 2013, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by leckerpansen
ANS: A Non-Schengen
ASO: A Schengen Ost (East)
ASW: A Schengen West
BSW: B Schengen West
BSO: B Schengen Ost (East)
BNS: B Non-Schengen
CNS: C Non-Schengen
CS: C Schengen
T2S: Terminal 2 Schengen
DNS: D Non-Schengen
ENS: E Non-Schengen
Welcome to FT, leckerpansen, and thanks for the comprehensive list. ^
As far as I understand all A bus gates are near where the old pier A/Z and pier A+/Z meet and are quite central especially for Z gates.
Arriving from VCE and departing to JFK, there is no need to clear security but xflyery will have to go through document check and passport control.
Nov 28, 2013, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
From the bus arrival gate go up the escalator and when you get to the top follow the signs for Z gates. This will take you to the right of passport control booths and a corridor to the bottom of the escalator taking you up to the Skyline train platform. The train leaves every 2-3 minutes and takes less than 2 minutes to T1 Z. There is security check somewhere on the way.
Frankfurt Airport is actually very well sign-posted. I will post some photos later. If you can read the alphabets and numbers, there's no need to talk to anybody to find your way around.
Many thanks.... I know I am being a complete worrier.
Nov 28, 2013, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by john9774
Many thanks.... I know I am being a complete worrier.
FRA is a large and badly planned airport but if you can navigate your way around LHR you shouldn't have any problem finding your way around FRA. I have tried to find suitable photos of FRA out of my collection of 500+ on flickr but some are out-dated and do not mention anything about Z gates. More recent ones were taken outside security as I started exploring parts of FRA I hadn't seen before.
If you are interested here is my collection. You will see at least that there are plenty of signs to guide you.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Nov 30, 2013 at 5:06 am
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